Kemuning Palma Forum V0.1

WELCOME TO KEMUNING PALMA PORTAL
If you already is the member of the forum click Login button at below to Login.
If you not a member for this Forum, please register yourself to view the FULL version of the FORUM.

This Portal best viewed with FIREFOX web browser. http://www.firefox.com

Thank you. Have a nice day.

This forum is open to all. This is a platform for resident to post their suggestions and comments for a safe & comfortable environment to live in.

 Note that this portal is no longer active. We have migrated to the new portal effective immediately to http://palma.groupsite.com/main/summary. Please register yourself in the new portal. Thank you.
Maintenance & Security Fee

Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:32 pm by Admin

"Dear residents,

The half yearly maintenance & security charges for January - June 2010 which amounted to RM480 is now due for payment.

If you are paying by cheque:
- Please make your cheque payable to "Persatuan Penduduk Jalan Kemuning Palma".
- Write your name, house number and street name at the back of the cheque.
- You may drop your cheque into the Drop-In box …

[ Full reading ]

Latest topics

» PALMA NEW FORUM
Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:07 am by zero4.bd4165

» LOST & FOUND
Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:31 pm by karen

» NEw cOOking ReciPe - Snake Meat
Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:47 pm by karen

» House Value
Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:04 pm by yapck

» JOKES Corner
Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:03 pm by JDdots

» What is AGM 2010 really transpired?
Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:19 pm by JDdots

» wall and floor tiles
Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:21 pm by binggo

» PARKING CONGESTION
Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:04 am by wealthraider

» Gong Xi Fa Chai 2010
Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:49 am by JDdots

2010/2011 New Committee

President                            : Mr. Sivakumar S. Ratnam

 

Deputy President               : Mr. Lim Hen Chin

 

Secretary                            : Mr. Gobinath Nadarajan

 

Deputy Secretary               : Mr. Andy Chew Boon Keat

 

Treasurer                           : Mr. Lee Chee Foon

 

Deputy Treasurer               : Ms. Mimi Nur Liana Bt. Abdullah

 

Committee Members        : Mr. Thayalan Retanavalu

 

                                              : Mr. Kelvin Lee Yeow Wah

 

                                              : Mr. Soon Kien Aik

 

                                              : Mr. Sajeesh Vidyasagaran

 

                                              : Mr. Anthony Chong Wann Sheng

 

                                              : Mr. Mohd. Najeeb Bin Khalid

 

                                              : Ms. Mupinderjeet Kaur


    Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Share
    avatar
    wealthraider
    Bronze member
    Bronze member

    Number of posts : 155
    Registration date : 2009-03-15

    Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  wealthraider on Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:53 pm

    Home grown forest seems to become a new hype at Palma and attracted some attentions to the local residents especially myself. It's not that difficult to spot a home grown forest in Palma and what you need to do is to look at some vacant houses in our neighborhood and you will find one. For me, I just need to peek over the retention wall behind my house and I could enjoy the lush green scenery.






    However, having to consider the threats entailed the lush green forest so close to my backyard, a few alarming thoughts seem to surface in my mind. About a few months back, didn't I read about the fogging exercise to keep the Mosquitos Aedes away? The fogging exercise shall be postponed till further notice if raining. Having a lush green forest in those vacant house, most likely drainage and the rain gutters are blocked by the dead leaves and vines. It's definately a good place for breeding mosquitos if not aedes. Do you think the fogging could kill the lava in the retention water in the rain gutter and drainage? I am seriously doubt it. Fogging does not get down to the root of the problem. As long as the home grown forest remain, we will be involved in the never ending battle with dengue.

    Once the area get populated with mosquitos, the next friendly neighbour will move in just to regulate the population of mosquitos to the right number. Our new neighbor consistently feeding themselves with mosquitos in rival with the house lizards for the main supply food chain. You can see them literally jumping around after a heavy downpour and they are pretty much harmless. Yes, I am talking about frogs here. The frogs will help us taking care of the mosquitos indiscrimately whether they are aedes or normal mosquetos as long as it could feed through their mouths. We always want to believe let the nature take its course and the frogs shall take care of the excess mosquitos.

    Unfortunately, our new neighbor doesn't move in without problems. They do not intentionally create problem for us. All they need are a small space where they could bury their body with their head protruded out in the ground so that their lightling speed tounge could whip on any flying insects around them. Mosquitos and flying insects are below their food chain and they also also below a group of predator's food chain, which is the snakes. I was told that these are no regular snakes but cobra. Cobra is the type of snakes you don't want to fool around and definately don't want them to stay in our neighbourhood.

    Instead of taking laid back attitude on this matter and calling our presumed snake buster President Toh during snakes intrusion, we could take an proactive role to solve the problem to its root. By clearing the forest, we are not only addressing the dengue problem but also keep the cobra community away from Palma.

    To create a safe, peaceful and comfortable environtment, RA is definately playing a vital role here. I strongly believe our dedicated RA under the leadership of President Toh, who is tireless and having strong political connection could get the MBSA to flatten the forest here. With due respect to the owners of the vacant houses, I did explore the option of suggesting to RA to be in contact with the vacant house owners so that they could carry out their own house keeping. However, I was being told that the RA didn't have the contacts of the owners and the only way is to get MBSA involved.

    President Toh, with all my respect I fully agree with your advices. One mission, one voice and consolidate action as RA of Palma we shall create a safe, peaceful and comfortable environment for our residents. There are easily more than 10 houses in Palma that have a home grown forest or sooner to be forest. We seriously need to address this matter with MBSA before any regretful incidents happened.

    One mission, one voie and consolidate action......and ultimately one big happy family!
    avatar
    Toh leong Hoe
    Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Number of posts : 93
    Registration date : 2009-03-09

    Re: Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  Toh leong Hoe on Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:16 am

    wealthraider wrote:Home grown forest seems to become a new hype at Palma and attracted some attentions to the local residents especially myself. It's not that difficult to spot a home grown forest in Palma and what you need to do is to look at some vacant houses in our neighborhood and you will find one. For me, I just need to peek over the retention wall behind my house and I could enjoy the lush green scenery.






    However, having to consider the threats entailed the lush green forest so close to my backyard, a few alarming thoughts seem to surface in my mind. About a few months back, didn't I read about the fogging exercise to keep the Mosquitos Aedes away? The fogging exercise shall be postponed till further notice if raining. Having a lush green forest in those vacant house, most likely drainage and the rain gutters are blocked by the dead leaves and vines. It's definately a good place for breeding mosquitos if not aedes. Do you think the fogging could kill the lava in the retention water in the rain gutter and drainage? I am seriously doubt it. Fogging does not get down to the root of the problem. As long as the home grown forest remain, we will be involved in the never ending battle with dengue.

    Once the area get populated with mosquitos, the next friendly neighbour will move in just to regulate the population of mosquitos to the right number. Our new neighbor consistently feeding themselves with mosquitos in rival with the house lizards for the main supply food chain. You can see them literally jumping around after a heavy downpour and they are pretty much harmless. Yes, I am talking about frogs here. The frogs will help us taking care of the mosquitos indiscrimately whether they are aedes or normal mosquetos as long as it could feed through their mouths. We always want to believe let the nature take its course and the frogs shall take care of the excess mosquitos.

    Unfortunately, our new neighbor doesn't move in without problems. They do not intentionally create problem for us. All they need are a small space where they could bury their body with their head protruded out in the ground so that their lightling speed tounge could whip on any flying insects around them. Mosquitos and flying insects are below their food chain and they also also below a group of predator's food chain, which is the snakes. I was told that these are no regular snakes but cobra. Cobra is the type of snakes you don't want to fool around and definately don't want them to stay in our neighbourhood.

    Instead of taking laid back attitude on this matter and calling our presumed snake buster President Toh during snakes intrusion, we could take an proactive role to solve the problem to its root. By clearing the forest, we are not only addressing the dengue problem but also keep the cobra community away from Palma.

    To create a safe, peaceful and comfortable environtment, RA is definately playing a vital role here. I strongly believe our dedicated RA under the leadership of President Toh, who is tireless and having strong political connection could get the MBSA to flatten the forest here. With due respect to the owners of the vacant houses, I did explore the option of suggesting to RA to be in contact with the vacant house owners so that they could carry out their own house keeping. However, I was being told that the RA didn't have the contacts of the owners and the only way is to get MBSA involved.

    President Toh, with all my respect I fully agree with your advices. One mission, one voice and consolidate action as RA of Palma we shall create a safe, peaceful and comfortable environment for our residents. There are easily more than 10 houses in Palma that have a home grown forest or sooner to be forest. We seriously need to address this matter with MBSA before any regretful incidents happened.

    One mission, one voie and consolidate action......and ultimately one big happy family!

    Noted Yr concern. We shall table & discuss in our forth coming meeting . ( Andy, Alan of Permai would like to have copies of MBSA meeting on incinerators photograph to be posted on thier blog. Can you help by email to him at the below address : allanang@yahoo.com)

    Thank You
    avatar
    wealthraider
    Bronze member
    Bronze member

    Number of posts : 155
    Registration date : 2009-03-15

    Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  wealthraider on Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:21 pm

    Hi Toh,

    Thanks for looking into my concern and we shall discuss the matter during the RA meeting. I will send the photos to Allan as per their request.

    Regards,
    Andy
    avatar
    wealthraider
    Bronze member
    Bronze member

    Number of posts : 155
    Registration date : 2009-03-15

    Farewell to Homegrown Forest

    Post  wealthraider on Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:40 pm

    Mr. President Toh has given green light to me to contact Paramount to resolve the homegrown forest issue. I called up Ms. Agnus in the morning this week discussing on the matter. She was a bit reluctant to commit on Paramount behalf to clear the forest because of the convenient reason she could come up with. I wasn't convince with her justification and exploring the option to resolve the issue in my own hand. I told her my reservation on spending RM300 to engage contractor to clear the forest. She said it's really nothing much Paramount and MBSA could do on this matter.

    I seek her opinion on using Molotov cocktail (gasoline bomb) to burn down the forest after reading the inspiring news from Thailand. She said I could do anything I want and Paramount can't do anything.





    That really leave me dumb founded and upset over Paramount's careless attitude. Paramount sometimes could be very inconsistent with their actions and promise. On one hand they are preaching peaceful and cheerful community but on the other hand they are advocating freedom to do anything which might include annoy or upset the neighbor such as drilling the walls in the middle of the night if you don't feel like sleeping. She literally told me that it is nothing we could do if your neighbor exhibiting some disturbing behavior.

    After a few days of my frank exchange of thoughts with Agnus, while I was in my office I got a text message from my wife saying some contractors are cutting down the trees and clearing the forest behind of our house. I was confused and happy over the miracles. From nothing could be done to people clearing the forest within a few days is a real miracles.

    Before....

    After....


    I have learn a great deal from this experience. To deal with Paramount or the developer, you got to be blunt and be daring. Anyway, my very big thanks to Paramount for taking action finally.
    avatar
    Dolphine
    Newbie
    Newbie

    Number of posts : 7
    Registration date : 2009-04-02

    Re: Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  Dolphine on Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:54 am

    Congrats to you, Wealthraider, that you finally got the forest behind your house demolished!

    However, I hope Paramount or the RA can do something about all the other vacant houses in Palma which still have huge overgrown lallang and forest and jungle and hutan as their front and back gardens! It is really so unsightly and ugly to have all these "abandoned-looking" gardens around. On the one hand we have beautiful zen-like landscaped gardens and on the other we have all these hutans around, courtesy of vacant houses in the area! SIGHHH.
    avatar
    Marlin
    Newbie
    Newbie

    Number of posts : 6
    Registration date : 2009-04-02

    Re: Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  Marlin on Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:35 pm

    wealthraider wrote:Mr. President Toh has given green light to me to contact Paramount to resolve the homegrown forest issue. I called up Ms. Agnus in the morning this week discussing on the matter. She was a bit reluctant to commit on Paramount behalf to clear the forest because of the convenient reason she could come up with. I wasn't convince with her justification and exploring the option to resolve the issue in my own hand. I told her my reservation on spending RM300 to engage contractor to clear the forest. She said it's really nothing much Paramount and MBSA could do on this matter.

    I seek her opinion on using Molotov cocktail (gasoline bomb) to burn down the forest after reading the inspiring news from Thailand. She said I could do anything I want and Paramount can't do anything.





    That really leave me dumb founded and upset over Paramount's careless attitude. Paramount sometimes could be very inconsistent with their actions and promise. On one hand they are preaching peaceful and cheerful community but on the other hand they are advocating freedom to do anything which might include annoy or upset the neighbor such as drilling the walls in the middle of the night if you don't feel like sleeping. She literally told me that it is nothing we could do if your neighbor exhibiting some disturbing behavior.

    After a few days of my frank exchange of thoughts with Agnus, while I was in my office I got a text message from my wife saying some contractors are cutting down the trees and clearing the forest behind of our house. I was confused and happy over the miracles. From nothing could be done to people clearing the forest within a few days is a real miracles.

    Before....

    After....


    I have learn a great deal from this experience. To deal with Paramount or the developer, you got to be blunt and be daring. Anyway, my very big thanks to Paramount for taking action finally.


    You are absolutely right about Paramount and their lame excuses...take for instance the requirement that we have to sign the 'Deed of Convenent'..which 1 clause specifically mentioned that house owners are not allowed to paint the facade of their house to other colours and external renovation work need to be approved by MBSA/Paramount... waht are they doing about it when we complained to them...'sorry we cant do anything about it its beyond us" so why signed the Deed if it is not going to be enforced!
    Seems that these are all part of their sales gimmick.
    avatar
    wealthraider
    Bronze member
    Bronze member

    Number of posts : 155
    Registration date : 2009-03-15

    Getting rid of home grown forest

    Post  wealthraider on Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:56 pm

    Dolphine wrote:Congrats to you, Wealthraider, that you finally got the forest behind your house demolished!

    However, I hope Paramount or the RA can do something about all the other vacant houses in Palma which still have huge overgrown lallang and forest and jungle and hutan as their front and back gardens! It is really so unsightly and ugly to have all these "abandoned-looking" gardens around. On the one hand we have beautiful zen-like landscaped gardens and on the other we have all these hutans around, courtesy of vacant houses in the area! SIGHHH.

    Hi Dolphine,

    You could perhaps use the same tricks to get Paramount clear the forest. Give a call to Agnes from Paramount and ask her whether it's ok for you to buy a few gallons of gasoline, filled up a few glass bottles, staff the partially gasoline soaked clothes into the bottle, lit it before throwing over to the forest.

    In fact, I purposely raise this issue in the forum so that RA could assist in getting Paramount to take action to clear out all the forest. However, RA believes that emotional appeal from the affected residents is more effective in getting Paramount to act.

    Regards,
    Andy
    avatar
    Dolphine
    Newbie
    Newbie

    Number of posts : 7
    Registration date : 2009-04-02

    Re: Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  Dolphine on Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:34 am

    Wealthraider, thanks for your suggestion but I'm not sure I should resort to such drastic actions at the moment. I'm fortunate enough that the neighbouring houses around my house are mostly occupied and do not have these "hutan jungle" problem.

    I was just adding onto your topic here that there ARE still MANY such hutan/jungle in MANY unoccupied houses in Palma and that paints a bad picture, in comparison to the many beautiful landscaped gardens that many of the residents have.

    So I'm wondering if anything can be done to clear those jungles? Strictly speaking, it is the owners' responsibilities to keep their properties neat & tidy but we all know that there ARE many irresponsible people around! And most times you can't even track them down as many of those houses were bought by speculators.
    avatar
    JDdots
    Bronze member
    Bronze member

    Number of posts : 162
    Registration date : 2009-03-16

    Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  JDdots on Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:31 pm

    Hi, Dolphine.

    Believe that Andy is jokingly asking you to use molotov. If not otherwise you might blow up Palma man!!!!

    I have thought about getting volunteers to chop off the forest but on sencond thought, we can be sued for transpassing lah.

    By the way somebody complained to Paramount that my immedate neighbour (emtpy house with not so "forest" though but alot of lalang)that camelons can be seen around the common wall.
    So Paramount contacted my neighbour and being a responsible neighbour, he send some body to clear the place up. As what Andy said, Paramount can sometimes be unpredicable.

    Regards

    JDdots

    Sponsored content

    Re: Home Grown Forest at Palma

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:16 pm